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From: hper1136f@gmail.com
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Subject: Fw: 劉聰德：發展以台灣為主體的進步文明
Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 05:19:26 +0800

蔡丁貴問得好！不過……

台灣只是事實上（de facto）獨立，還不是一個國家。民進黨的「台灣前途決議文」、「正常國家決議文」說台灣已是國家，只是「不正常」而已。這是樂不思獨，自摸自爽，自欺欺人的騙票技倆。我早就就此提出質疑：

民進黨及傳統獨派口口聲聲台灣不屬於中國，是主權獨立的國家，但聯合國卻進不去。有人說聯合國進不去是因為北京打壓，不能證明台灣不是國家。好，那我請問民進黨及傳統獨派，台獨的先烈如鄭南榕為什麼進不了台灣的任何一個忠烈柌？台灣的政府首長包括以前的民進黨的總管陳水扁及現在的台南市長賴清德，怎麼每年春秋都還在拜別國（中國）的革命先烈呢？北京政府有禁止陳水扁、賴清德把鄭南榕供奉在忠烈祠嗎？北京政府有逼迫陳水扁、賴清德去公祭中國的革命與抗日先烈嗎？都沒有嘛！

民進黨首長不公祭台獨先烈，只去公祭黃花崗烈士等中國先烈，如同有一個人自稱是基督徒，但從來不拜耶穌，不捐錢給教會，一天到晚去拜太上老君、玉皇大帝、城隍爺、土地公，去廟裡捐香油錢。有這種基督徒嗎？騙鬼啦！民進黨及傳統獨派，你們說台灣不屬於中國，不是吹雞胿嗎？你們說台灣是主權獨立的國家，不是天大的笑話嗎？（見2012.04.06「鄭南榕死不瞑目」一文）

蔡丁貴這次質問姚嘉文，說：「如果台灣已經是一個主權獨立的國家，為什麼今天對泰源事件五位台灣民族英雄的紀念會，“總統”沒有來參加？咱可以進一步質問蘇貞昌：如果“中華民國”就是咱台灣人的國家，“政府”為什麼沒有為這五位台灣建國烈士立銅像，安置在公共場所，宣揚民族精神和國家認同？請檢驗自己的民族尊嚴，不要用“中華民國尚未正常化”來搪塞。」

這一段話講得很好。但拿民進黨的「台灣前途決議文」、「正常國家決議文」騙人的綠營政客很多，不只姚嘉文而已，陳水扁也是。陳水扁的「一邊一國」就是一個大騙局。蔡丁貴怎麼不也去質問他一下，還一天到晚「咱的阿扁」、「咱的阿扁」唸個不停。不令人惡心嗎？

綠營人士如果真心禮拜泰源烈士，不可能還會有心情去為陳水扁等這些民進黨的投機政客搖旗吶喊。我強烈認為，一面為陳水扁等這些民進黨的投機政客搖旗吶喊，一面又去禮拜泰源烈士的人，不是腦筋壞掉，就是過分濫情。泰源烈士如地下有知，也會搖頭。

劉聰德說：「群眾不需要傳統的領導者，就能捲起海嘯般的力量，沖垮反動的統治集團」。這話有道理。問題是，如果群眾分不清陳水扁等這些民進黨的投機政客與泰源烈士的差別，只要有廟就拜，有選舉就非民進爛黨不可，這樣怎麼可能捲起什麼「海嘯」？！我看連「漣漪」都沒有呢！

請參考拙作：

‧要我投給蔡英文的條件《詩》  2012.01.14

……要我投給民進黨的蔡英文

必須使我忘記一些人……

使我忘記鄭金河

1970年他被槍決前留言

「台灣如果沒有獨立是我們的恥辱！」……

‧追思鄭南榕，卻迴避台獨的事例 《新聞輯錄》  2013.04.28更新

‧鄭南榕死不瞑目  2012.04.06

‧團結支持無骨投機的民進爛黨？  2007.09.30

‧含淚投票，政客偷笑  2007.11.26

‧選舉掛帥，政客貪財  2008.08.19

‧親綠社團無恥，建國廣場不齒  2008.09.03

‧社運依附爛黨，沒有好下場  2008.09.09

‧民進黨不排除統一，獨派不可寄望它  2010.09.08

‧從「全民調」看民進黨的墮落  2011.01.24

‧獨派一些人又在當政客的跟屁蟲 2011.03.05

‧民進黨的兩岸政策向國民黨靠攏的消息《新聞輯錄》  2013.05.31更新

‧獨派素質差，難怪台獨渺茫（撰寫中）

傅雲欽  2013.06.04

From: hper1136f@gmail.com
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Subject: Fw: Liucong De: the development of Taiwan as the main progress and civilization
Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 05:19:26 +0800

Cai Dinggui Good question! But ......

Taiwan is in fact (de facto) independence is not a country. DPP's "Resolution on Taiwan's Future", "Resolution normal country," said Taiwan is already state, but "abnormal" only. This is music not think alone, Zimo from cool, self-deceiving lie ticket tactics. I would have to propose the question:

Keeps the traditional pro-independence Democratic Progressive Party and Taiwan does not belong to China, is a sovereign independent country, the United Nations has no access. Some people say that the entrance is because Beijing to suppress the UN can not prove that Taiwan is not a country. Well, I ask the pro-independence Democratic Progressive Party and traditions, such as the independence of the martyrs of Taiwan Cheng Nan-jung Why not enter any one Valiant Ci? Taiwan's government leaders including former chef of Chen Shui-bian and the DPP Tainan long Laiqing now, how are still bade farewell to the country every spring (China) revolutionary martyrs do? Beijing government has prohibited Chen, Cheng was enshrined in the Martyrs Laiqing to do? Beijing government has forced Chen, Laiqing go public memorial Chinese Revolution and the anti-Japanese martyrs do? Well do not!

Heads are not martyrs memorial independence Democratic Progressive Party, only go to other Chinese martyrs martyrs memorial HuangHuaGang, as a man claiming to be Christian, but never worship Jesus, do not donate money to the church all day to worship Lord Lao Zi, the Jade Emperor , Cheng Huang, Earth God, sesame oil money donated to the temple. Such a Christian? Cheat ghost friends! And traditional pro-independence Democratic Progressive Party, and you say that Taiwan does not belong to China, not blowing chicken Gui do? You say that Taiwan is an independent sovereign state, not a big joke? (See 2012.04.06 "Cheng Nan-jung double death" an article)

Cai Dinggui this question Yao Chia-wen, said: "If Taiwan is already a sovereign and independent country, and why today Taiyuan commemoration event five Taiwanese national hero," the president "did not come to participate? We can further questioning Su: If the" China Republic of China "is we Taiwanese country," government "Why did not the founding of Taiwan for these five martyrs stand statue, placed in public places, to promote national spirit and national identity? verify their national dignity, do not use" Republic of China has not been properly oriented "to stall."

This paragraph words very well. But the DPP to take a "Resolution on Taiwan's Future", "normal country resolution on" Green Camp politicians lie a lot, not only Yao Chia-wen only, Chen Shui-bian also. Chen Shui-bian's "country on each side" is a big scam. Cai Dinggui how not to question him about it, but all day long "tantamount bian", "Zan's Chen Shui-bian," read incessantly. Do not disgusting?

Green Camp Taiyuan if true worship of martyrs, will not in the mood to Chen Shui-bian and other such speculative DPP politicians drum up support. I strongly believe that one side of the DPP's Chen Shui-bian and other such speculative politicians beating the drums, side Taiyuan martyrs who went to Sunday, not brains broken, that is overly melodramatic. Taiyuan martyrs such as underground to know, also shook his head.

Liucong De said: "The people do not need a traditional leader, you can roll up a tsunami-like force, crushes the reactionary ruling clique." Saying makes sense. The problem is, if people can not tell the DPP's Chen Shui-bian and other such speculative politicians and Taiyuan martyrs difference, as long as the temple to worship, an election is not available for non-Democratic Progressive Party rotten, so how could roll up what "tsunami"? ! I think even the "ripples" do not have it!

Please refer to my book:

‧ want me to vote for Tsai Ing-wen of the terms "poem" 2012.01.14

...... Want me to vote for the DPP's Tsai Ing-wen
Some people have made me forget ......

Made me forget Zheng Jin River
In 1970 he was shot before the message
"If Taiwan is not independent is our shame!" ......

‧ memorial Cheng Nan-jung evaded independence of stories "news featuring" 2013.04.28 update
‧ Cheng Nan-jung wasted step 2012.04.06
‧ Solidarity boneless speculative DPP rotten party? 2007.09.30
‧ tearful vote, politicians laughing 2007.11.26
‧ elections in command, politicians greedy 2008.08.19
‧ shameless pro-green communities, the founding Square despised 2008.09.03
‧ Social Movement party attachment rotten, no good end 2008.09.09
‧ DPP does not exclude unity, it can not expect the pro-independence 2010.09.08
‧ From the "universal call" to see the DPP's fall 2011.01.24
‧ some people again when the pro-independence politicians stooge 2011.03.05
‧ DPP's cross-strait policy closer to the Nationalist message "press featuring" 2013.05.31 update
‧ pro-independence poor quality, no wonder independence slim (write in)

----- Original Message -----

From: Dr. Ted Lau

To: undisclosed-recipients:

Sent: Monday, June 03, 2013 6:14 PM

Subject: 發展以台灣為主體的進步文明

發展以台灣為主體的進步文明

 by 劉重義

發動泰 源起 義之一的鄭金河烈士，最後的遺言：「台灣如果沒有獨立，是我們這一代年輕人的恥辱！」接著，又沉重地託付：「我們要走了，剩下的就留 給你們了。」

如果咱 這一 代真的盡了心力，卻仍然無法達成台灣獨立，是的，這確實是咱的恥辱！但是，咱絕不能為了掩飾這個恥辱的烙印，而像蘇貞昌一樣地退怯， 自欺欺人：「台灣已經是一個主權國家，不必回頭講台獨。」應該是認 真檢 討台灣民族運動1.0所犯的錯誤，更加努力採取2.0的運動觀，邁向積極驅逐赤藍、打拚建國的民族抗爭。

阿貴仔5月30日在義光教會紀念泰源烈士的禮拜後，質問姚嘉文律師：如果台灣已 經是一個主權獨立的 國家，為什麼今天對五位台灣民族英雄的紀念會，「總統」沒有來參加？咱可以進一步質問蘇 貞昌：如果「中華民國」就是咱台灣人的國家，「政府」為什麼沒有為這五位台灣建國烈士立銅 像， 安置在公共場所，宣揚民族精神和國家認同？請檢驗自己的民族尊嚴，不要用「中華民國尚未正常化」來搪塞。

民族運動2.0的運動觀強調：群眾不需要傳統的領導者就能捲起海嘯般的力量，沖 垮反動的統治集團。 因此，台灣人應決心領導自己，發揮網際時代的群眾力量， 建立 屬於咱自己的國家。這個新而獨立的國家才可能清除外來赤藍權貴在政治、經濟與社會所積累的惡質影響力，使台灣人能夠跳脫充滿毒素的赤 藍醬缸，發展以台灣為主體的進步文明。