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you're welcome! I'm glad you liked it.

You make a good point. Sorry for having to reply in English.

I see your argument stants as one perspective, and there are some good observations you've made in the movie. I do think that Cathrine's feeling towards Chloe is still open to debate however. If Catherine's goal is to get her husband back, he obviously flirted with her after their son's performance, instead of rushing home to prep herself, she rushes to Chloe's asking for sex. At the beginning of the film you see Catherine stalking Chloe from her office window, that's prior to Cathering meeting Chloe in the restaurant - Catherine is fascinated by the woman before Chloe is even aware of the existence of Catherine. Catherine is certainly the manipulative one in the lesbian relationship but the film didn't delve further into her emotions. It wouldn't be easy for a straight woman to sleep with the same sex for the first time, Chloe was too proactive and it freaked Catherine out before she had a chance to process everything.

Anyway as I said, it's open to interpretation whether Catherine's attraction is toward Chloe or vicariously through Chloe her husband. But it's great that you bring another opinion, it's always welcome and I hope you stick around. :)

no problems

我同意你有關髮髻的說法.
不過沒有去同志的社交圈, 不是'典型'的同志, 就不是同志了嗎?
這是個值得探討的話題呢.
異性戀沒有去參與所謂的社交圈, 沒有一個'典型', 也未必有人會質疑他們的取向? double standard much?
歡迎討論.

Sorry for having to reply in English.

I see what you're saying. Although personally I don't believe in stereotyping people, let it be lesbians or Asians or mathmaticians etc, just because the houses are built in the same suburb doesn't mean they all have the same style. But, like I said, I see where you're coming fom. There are so few lesbian films out there that inevitably some ignorant person is going to generalise lesbians based upon the perception he/she got from a film.

That's why visibility is so important for the minorities. In recent years you see more and more films about lesbian in the market place, and with that comes diverse storylines with characters that have diverse personalities.

I think 'Chloe' is a great example in that regard. As you said it, a housewife and a hooker don't fit into lesbian stereotypes, but I'm pretty sure there are plenty of housewives and femme looking hookers who prefer girls and find this film relateable. I think as lesbians ourselves we should know we differ from one another immensely and the only thing most lesbians have in common is their sexuality.

Anyway, the point I'm trying to get at is, to expect a movie to represent a whole community is perhaps asking too much? Not all lesbian films have a political agenda - obviously that's important, but not all lesbian films are suppose to serve that purpose (as not all heterosexual films are about advocating heterosexuality or attempt to represent all heterosexual relationships). 'Chloe' is trying to explore the complexity of love/lust and long term relationships, the story could easily be told between a men and a woman, the fact that it's between two women makes no difference to the core message of the film - that love and lust sometimes are inseperable. Therefore, I have no problem calling it a lesbian film for the single, basic fact that the story evolves around two women.

Good discussion though.

呵呵, 我快快翻譯一下.

Chloe說她媽媽教她不要買任何她不會穿去機場接男朋友的東西 (意思是要買的每件衣服/飾品都是要能夠馬上吸引男人的), 然後她說她媽媽在她15歲的時候給她400多塊錢要她離開家, 從此她再也沒見過她媽媽.

Catherine說她兒子在15歲的時候離家出走過, 和一個26歲的音樂老師. 老師有天下午來接她兒子, 她兒子就毅然而然和她同居了. Chloe問說兒子是不是還在和老師同居, Catherine說不是, 她想辦法讓老師再也不能和兒子聯絡, 所以現在兒子回來了, 可是兒子不原諒她. Chloe說妳只是在保護妳的兒子. Catherine說他是我的獨生子.

可憐的Chloe啊!! 難怪她會愛上Catherine.

哈哈發現手機可以打中文，這下沒藉口不回應了。雖然超級慢而且有鬥雞眼的危險，但最近太忙都沒碰電腦，還是回一下好了。
這位熱情滴大學生，你讓我笑的好開心！特別是你說看youtube笑哈哈，本人經常在做這件事，yyoutube是我的開心果。我理解你英文的煩惱，我何嘗不是被蝌蚪字打敗無數次！特別是碰到喜歡的人就常常希望英文能和中文一樣順暢，逗她開心。唉，難難難！一起加油吧！

另外，chloe的身世電影沒交代，原版也沒交代，想必可憐人的背景都差不多。

嗯嗯是的, 除了訪談還有一些stand up comedy都好好笑.

不過大學生還是不要和我們老人一樣在電腦上找樂趣, 大學生活應該要把它過的很荒謬很精彩的啊! (懷念大學中)

喂! 喂! 警察快來抓亂丟垃圾的人...

其實這部電影給我最大的感觸是, 如果Chloe是個很醜的人, 大家還會如此感傷嗎?

如果巴黎聖母院的駝背也是一個勇敢追求愛情的人, 大家還會感動嗎? 還是會被嚇到?

因為人美, 逐變成了一個淒美的故事.

啊我知道你說的電影，Jennifer's Body, 我本來有打算介紹但是電影除了Megan Fox超辣的親熱戲之外沒有甚麼內容。而且Megan又嫁人了讓我失去遐想空間。
說實話我滿喜歡這種鬱鬱寡歡的氣調的電影，可能因為我是個sadist吧